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with the taliban and militants. >> what i've said is we're going to encourage democracy in pakistan, expand our nonmilitary aid to pakistan so that they have more of a stake in working with us, but insisting that they go after these militants. and if we have osama bin laden in our sights and the pakistani government is unable or unwilling to take them out, then i think that we have to act and we will take them out. we will kill bin laden; we will crush al qaida. that has to be our biggest national security priority. >> senator mccain? >> well, katie, thank you. you know, my hero is a guy named teddy roosevelt. teddy roosevelt used to say walk softly -- talk softly, but carry a big stick. senator obama likes to talk loudly. in fact, he said he wants to announce that he's going to attack pakistan. remarkable. you know, if you are a country and you're trying to gain the support of another country, then you want to do everything you can that they would act in a cooperative fashion. when you announce that you're going to launch an attack into another country, it's pretty obvious that you have the ef
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